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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 9645779" data-attributes="member: 23484">This could be fun, and it would reward investing in Intelligence.This is one place where people will try to fudge things. I would be strict about this -- one empty hand required to hold the scroll and (RAW, I believe) a separate hand is required for somatic components for many spells.So this is almost giving everyone the level 13 feature for the Rogue (Thief). Even with the possibiliy of mishap, you would need to strengthen that ability (no check needed?) if you play at those levels. I'd be clear that by &quot;Fizzles&quot; you mean that the scroll disintegrates (no re-tries). I'd also consider a baselie penalty for failure to be &quot;the caster gets hit by a magic missile spell at a level equal to the spell being cast&quot;. Real consequences. Brooch of Shielding suddenly becomes a favorite magic item. The question is, does that then punish players for trying what you want to incentivize? I don't know -- it might. But it makes clear that scroll casting has risks. Anything less than that, though, would seem to trivbialize it (for me at least).cool.I'm not sure it is ripe for abuse -- it requires players investing in Intelligence, and risking real damage. It's only a &quot;factory&quot; if you as DM have given the players so much cash that this is all they can do with it. That's fundamentally a separate problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 9645779, member: 23484"] This could be fun, and it would reward investing in Intelligence. This is one place where people will try to fudge things. I would be strict about this -- one empty hand required to hold the scroll and (RAW, I believe) a separate hand is required for somatic components for many spells. So this is almost giving everyone the level 13 feature for the Rogue (Thief). Even with the possibiliy of mishap, you would need to strengthen that ability (no check needed?) if you play at those levels. I'd be clear that by "Fizzles" you mean that the scroll disintegrates (no re-tries). I'd also consider a baselie penalty for failure to be "the caster gets hit by a magic missile spell at a level equal to the spell being cast". Real consequences. Brooch of Shielding suddenly becomes a favorite magic item. The question is, does that then punish players for trying what you want to incentivize? I don't know -- it might. But it makes clear that scroll casting has risks. Anything less than that, though, would seem to trivbialize it (for me at least). cool. I'm not sure it is ripe for abuse -- it requires players investing in Intelligence, and risking real damage. It's only a "factory" if you as DM have given the players so much cash that this is all they can do with it. That's fundamentally a separate problem. [/QUOTE]

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