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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7504566" data-attributes="member: 58172">Defeating an enemy requires a number of attack rolls to complete a ‘challenge’. D&amp;D specializes in combat mechanics and makes it complex.Similarly, to complete a skill ‘challenge’ can part of a complex encounter that requires numerous skill checks. For example, for us, creating a magic item (or modifying an existing magic item) involves numerous challenges, from acquiring the rare ingredients to performing the proper magical rituals. In this sense, the skill challenge involves a number of skill checks. Where combat results in finding random loot, skill results in creating or otherwise obtaining your own loot.Also, I enjoy nonlethal combat encounters, where the opponent flees, is captured, bargained with, or stealthed past. I find this more realistic, and diverse skill checks often determine the outcome.Also note, if combat requires many attack rolls, one would expect a single skill check to be more challenging, opposite an expertise auto-win bonus that effectively removes the possibility of a challenge.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 7504566, member: 58172"] Defeating an enemy requires a number of attack rolls to complete a ‘challenge’. D&D specializes in combat mechanics and makes it complex. Similarly, to complete a skill ‘challenge’ can part of a complex encounter that requires numerous skill checks. For example, for us, creating a magic item (or modifying an existing magic item) involves numerous challenges, from acquiring the rare ingredients to performing the proper magical rituals. In this sense, the skill challenge involves a number of skill checks. Where combat results in finding random loot, skill results in creating or otherwise obtaining your own loot. Also, I enjoy nonlethal combat encounters, where the opponent flees, is captured, bargained with, or stealthed past. I find this more realistic, and diverse skill checks often determine the outcome. Also note, if combat requires many attack rolls, one would expect a single skill check to be more challenging, opposite an expertise auto-win bonus that effectively removes the possibility of a challenge. [/QUOTE]

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