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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5594738" data-attributes="member: 54877">I realize that the ranged attack during a move action example is combat, but it edges right up to what I was talking about.&nbsp; It affects combat, but not the direct numbers.&nbsp; But that is probably the limit of what would be allowed in such a design.&nbsp; So the larger question is the one BlueBlackRed brings up--namely, is it possible to design options that broaden character appeal for the non-combat side, while still allowing the core functions to happen with the core characters?&nbsp;Also keep in mind that the other parts of action adventure are wide open for development--exploration, negotiation, etc.&nbsp; Just no direct changes to the combat numbers.&nbsp; &nbsp;Example:&nbsp; Is there a design space for a &quot;Fast Talker&quot; feat that doesn't simply add to the Diplomacy or Bluff numbers, that leaves open the core functions of those skills to all characters, but still allows a fast talker to noticable shine in certain situations?&nbsp; Do the skill check faster?&nbsp; Do it with less to work with?&nbsp; What?&nbsp;That also open up a larger question of is their a design space to allow at least two specialized diplomats in a group?&nbsp; One is slower but more effective when given time.&nbsp; The other is the &quot;fast talking&quot; con man.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5594738, member: 54877"] I realize that the ranged attack during a move action example is combat, but it edges right up to what I was talking about. It affects combat, but not the direct numbers. But that is probably the limit of what would be allowed in such a design. So the larger question is the one BlueBlackRed brings up--namely, is it possible to design options that broaden character appeal for the non-combat side, while still allowing the core functions to happen with the core characters? Also keep in mind that the other parts of action adventure are wide open for development--exploration, negotiation, etc. Just no direct changes to the combat numbers. Example: Is there a design space for a "Fast Talker" feat that doesn't simply add to the Diplomacy or Bluff numbers, that leaves open the core functions of those skills to all characters, but still allows a fast talker to noticable shine in certain situations? Do the skill check faster? Do it with less to work with? What? That also open up a larger question of is their a design space to allow at least two specialized diplomats in a group? One is slower but more effective when given time. The other is the "fast talking" con man. [/QUOTE]

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