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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9185310" data-attributes="member: 2629">Your premise that nobody plays at the level is flawed.&nbsp; While fewer play at that level, there are still a large number of games played at levels 12 and above - all the way up to 20.&nbsp; If there were better training for DMs to help them understand the challenges and proven approaches for running games at those levels, I think they'd be even more popular.&nbsp; Regardless - I would not want things separated out in the way you describe.&nbsp; It would be cumbersome to look up materials for higher level plan and lower level play in multiple sources.&nbsp; Further, I see no advantages in breaking it into two locations.&nbsp; All it does is create unnecessary barriers.&nbsp; In prior editions (3/3.5) we saw an Epic Level Handbook released later in the edition that governed character advancement beyond 20th level.&nbsp; I found that to be an annoying split to have to work between.&nbsp; However, as many of the mechanics in that book, while continuing existing classes, were separate from the mechanics of the classes - so it wasn't too annoying.&nbsp; Here, where you're diving a cohesive whole down the middle for no real reason... it would be more annoying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9185310, member: 2629"] Your premise that nobody plays at the level is flawed. While fewer play at that level, there are still a large number of games played at levels 12 and above - all the way up to 20. If there were better training for DMs to help them understand the challenges and proven approaches for running games at those levels, I think they'd be even more popular. Regardless - I would not want things separated out in the way you describe. It would be cumbersome to look up materials for higher level plan and lower level play in multiple sources. Further, I see no advantages in breaking it into two locations. All it does is create unnecessary barriers. In prior editions (3/3.5) we saw an Epic Level Handbook released later in the edition that governed character advancement beyond 20th level. I found that to be an annoying split to have to work between. However, as many of the mechanics in that book, while continuing existing classes, were separate from the mechanics of the classes - so it wasn't too annoying. Here, where you're diving a cohesive whole down the middle for no real reason... it would be more annoying. [/QUOTE]

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