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<blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 9185557" data-attributes="member: 907">I could, in theory, see it if it was used to actually provide more depth to tiers of play. You could have a core game up to level 10 focusing on traditional adventuring, switching over to paragon play at level 11+ where you get more involved as a mover and shaker in the world, and then actual epic play at level 16+. The 5.0 rules pay some lip service to the concept but there's really no big difference between adventuring at level 9 and level 12. But the problems I see are threefold:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">You hide some of the potential progression at the start. Most people like knowing where a road is heading before setting foot on it.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">A lot of people like sticking with traditional adventuring and don't want to be Important People. They're perfectly fine being a 16th level murderhobo, only now they're mugging ancient dragons for their hoards rather than goblins for pocket cash.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">If you have committed to a vertical expansion strategy, it's hard to also expand the game horizontally. In other words, if the PHB + DMG covers level 1-10 for barbarians, fighters, wizards, etc., and then you add the Paragon's Guide for 11 to 15 and the Epic Campaign Guide for 16 to 20... what do you do with the Eberron book and its Artificer class, or the potential psion class if they ever get around to it, or some other class they want to add? Or heck, even subclasses for existing classes.</li>
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[QUOTE="Staffan, post: 9185557, member: 907"] I could, in theory, see it if it was used to actually provide more depth to tiers of play. You could have a core game up to level 10 focusing on traditional adventuring, switching over to paragon play at level 11+ where you get more involved as a mover and shaker in the world, and then actual epic play at level 16+. The 5.0 rules pay some lip service to the concept but there's really no big difference between adventuring at level 9 and level 12. But the problems I see are threefold: [LIST=1] [*]You hide some of the potential progression at the start. Most people like knowing where a road is heading before setting foot on it. [*]A lot of people [B]like[/B] sticking with traditional adventuring and don't want to be Important People. They're perfectly fine being a 16th level murderhobo, only now they're mugging ancient dragons for their hoards rather than goblins for pocket cash. [*]If you have committed to a vertical expansion strategy, it's hard to also expand the game horizontally. In other words, if the PHB + DMG covers level 1-10 for barbarians, fighters, wizards, etc., and then you add the Paragon's Guide for 11 to 15 and the Epic Campaign Guide for 16 to 20... what do you do with the Eberron book and its Artificer class, or the potential psion class if they ever get around to it, or some other class they want to add? Or heck, even subclasses for existing classes. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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