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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 8056801" data-attributes="member: 7015558">I gotta ignore the other statblocks you mention, because we are talking about 5E here. Second, Zariel doesn't kill Kostchiechie on purpose; if she did, he would just reform in the Abyss. She purposefully imprisoned him instead.You're giving way to much credit to the Demon Lords here; sure they're intelligence, even wise if you look at their stats. But their hopelessly ambitious, cruel and inconsistent. They simply aren't capable of holding together an alliance with another Demon Lord for long, because they are always thinking "When is the right moment for me to stab him in the back so only I'm in charge?" And they're ALL thinking that, and eventually one moves and the whole thing devolves into infighting. They're all extremely intelligent, but they lack the inherent ability of the devils to organize themselves in any way that lasts longer (or larger) than a brief alliance to invade hell.Demon Lords don't even share the same idea about what conquering the Multiverse would even look like. Yeenoghu just wants to burn and destroy, Orcus wants an undead wasteland, Juiblex wants to eat everything, Graz'zt wants a big violent orgy... their goals are extremely contradictory. The devils though have the same goal; cold, merciless domination.</blockquote>