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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6232420" data-attributes="member: 78752">As we've discussed before, Shemeska, I have a preference for reductionism in cosmology; no Ethereal when the Astral will do, so to speak.  From that perspective, I think that folding Ravenloft into the Shadowfell and keeping the more familiar of the two names is perfectly appropriate.I think the cognitive disconnect here is more the folding of death and evil into the Plane of Shadow to create the Shadowfell in the first place, which I would agree did not make much sense.  But the absence of the Plane of Shadow from any cosmology is not something I would be particularly upset about -- no Shadow when the Ethereal will do, and no Ethereal when the Astral will do.We're getting off topic for this thread -- the relative value of preserving or discarding various aspects of the D&D cosmology is the subject of another series of threads I have been planning to post.I saw the smiley; I should have heeded it.  Sorry, Kinak.I love me some Spelljammer.  This proposal, however, was more about these worlds as thematic engines for the greater setting, much like alignment or the class system are intrinsic parts of D&D.  Not that PCs would be unable to travel there, but doing so would be more like visiting the Abyss or Mount Celestia than like crossing the border from Veluna to Furyondy, which more accurately reflects (in my opinion) the design goal of Spelljammer.Okay, I think I see my mistake.  I used the word "core" in the OP.  My intention was to suggest the sense of "unified D&D setting," not "setting Wizards ought to publish as a part of D&D5."  Note that this thread has an All D&D tag, not a D&D5 tag.I understand the reasons why this would never work as the official "core" setting of D&D -- heck, I object to the prospect of /warforged/ being considered "core" -- if I object to a single race, how do you think I feel about the prospect of having to specifically exclude all of Eberron to players in my homebrew?This thread is supposed to represent a /thought experiment/.  A "what if."  Wizards hasn't suggested anything that even remotely looks like this (except for Ravenloft), and I don't expect them to.I'm really only interested in whether or not the theory is sound, not whether the idea would sell books.  The latter is completely irrelevant.For the record, I thought your first post in the thread was concise but insightful.  It asked exactly the sort of question I wanted to think of an answer to.</blockquote>

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