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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 6234096" data-attributes="member: 70">Let's all try to be civil, please. He didn't refuse to define them; he said he didn't know. There's a difference.For the record, the suffix -ian means "of, related to, or resembling" (1), so Greyhawkian would mean of Greyhawk, related to Greyhawk, or resembling Greyhawk. As Greyhawk is a setting, and as previously stated by you (2), and accepted by myself (3), it has multiple defining traits and the term Greyhawkian would thus pertain to something that had similar multiple defining traits. The traits are intentionally undefined or poorly defined in this thread. For one set of definitions, you might look at Nitescreed's essay (copied here: <a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2iuh6&page=4?4Es-Rejection-of-Gygaxian-Naturalism#194" target="_blank">http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2iuh6&page=4?4Es-Rejection-of-Gygaxian-Naturalism#194</a>) or reference the various primers, essays, and articles listed in this thread ( <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?298070-A-World-of-Greyhawk-primer" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?298070-A-World-of-Greyhawk-primer</a> ). In the context of this immediate thread, however, each person should assign their own definitions and traits to the term Greyhawkian (or Mystarian, Realmsian, Krynnian, Birthrightian, etc).One person could attempt to assemble a definitive definition of "Greyhawkian", but the time and effort to do so would be prohibitive without a strong emotional or financial incentive. DMZ2112 lacks such incentive ("...without a salary.") (4) Furthermore, attempts to do so would inevitable exclude certain people as there are binary choices to be made (ie, Wars/not-Wars), likely resulting in bad feelings, which DMZ2112 has no desire or reason to take on the burden of such ("...above my pay grade.")(4). He was throwing out an idea to think about, not a finished proposal.My own example, which was written tongue-in-cheek, contains some examples of what a few of my Greyhawkian traits might be, to wit bas-reliefs and esoteric vocabulary. The inclusion of bas-reliefs stems from the use of such by Zagyg to trap deities below Castle Greyhawk (or such is my recollection), and again as a trap in Tomb of Horrors (as depicted, I think this might actually be a high relief, not a bas- or low relief. Mea culpa.) The esoteric vocabulary is a meta-reference to Gary's writing style and his frequent inclusion of etymons and other quasi-archaic idiosyncrasies.My list of traits need not be yours. That's OK. This is a "what-if", not a "this-is". You are encouraged to present your own ideas of how this would work.(1) <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/-ian" target="_blank">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/-ian</a>(2) <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349883-What-if-the-core-setting-of-D-amp-D-was-ALL-the-settings-of-D-amp-D/page5&p=6232693&viewfull=1#post6232693" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349883-What-if-the-core-setting-of-D-amp-D-was-ALL-the-settings-of-D-amp-D/page5&p=6232693&viewfull=1#post6232693</a>(3) <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349883-What-if-the-core-setting-of-D-amp-D-was-ALL-the-settings-of-D-amp-D/page5&p=6232794&viewfull=1#post6232794" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349883-What-if-the-core-setting-of-D-amp-D-was-ALL-the-settings-of-D-amp-D/page5&p=6232794&viewfull=1#post6232794</a>(4) <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349883-What-if-the-core-setting-of-D-amp-D-was-ALL-the-settings-of-D-amp-D/page5&p=6233717&viewfull=1#post6233717" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?349883-What-if-the-core-setting-of-D-amp-D-was-ALL-the-settings-of-D-amp-D/page5&p=6233717&viewfull=1#post6233717</a></blockquote>

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