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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Amphytrion" data-source="post: 9698914" data-attributes="member: 7046181">There is no exclusivity to (1). They can be both. Bahamut and Tiamat are both clearly gods per the 2024 PHB; here’s an excerpt from the dragonborn entry: “One story holds that these eggs were blessed by the dragon gods Bahamut and Tiamat”. The Lore Glossary in the DMG also makes this explicit, names them gods, and even highlights typical worshippers.Similarly, many gods are also categorized under other terms as well, even if you just take the 2024 books into account. Tharizdun is both a god and an elder evil, for example.As for (2), Bahamut and Tiamat fashioned the First World, and it was only afterwards that the other gods appeared and asked for a piece of it. I suppose it depends on how you interpret the tale, and you could say the Outer Planes existed first, but I don’t see the point of regressing pre-Creation. For all intents and purposes, they were the first movers.I don’t think the actual, precise canon matters to this thread, however, as it is just aiding the OP in fitting the Wind Dukes in his original cosmology. I do not wish to derail it.Since OP is using a more Sumerian take on Tiamat, I would suggest making Tiamat and Bahamut an unified entity, split by discord by some event early on. Tweaking the First World myth, maybe the other gods show up and ask for a place for their own creations, and Tiamat is against it while Bahamut is not. Perhaps it’s Corellon, planting the World Tree, and Bahamut defends him while Tiamat rages in fury. There’s lots of room to play with it.</blockquote>

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