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What if undead had Constitution scores?
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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1785294" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>By the SRD, "Constitution represents your character’s health and stamina." A creature who is not alive shouldn't have constitution IMO because it doesn't have a health.</p><p></p><p>As you point out, Elementals still have a Con score; they don't breathe, eat or sleep, they share many immunities with undead and constructs (poison for example is something that requires the target to have a metabolism to affect it), but are still required to make fortitude saves to resist some other effects. They are indeed alive in their own way, but differently from other living things - for example they cannot be resurrected.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea if there's a reason behind all this, but eventually the result is that elementals are somewhat half-way between mortals and nonliving beings. It may be hard to accept... however it reminds me of when in old biology class the teacher explained that the limit between life and non-life is blurred in the real world as well, with viruses raising questions whether they should be considered living (unintelligent but still with a mockery of lifecycle) or not (they don't have a DNA on their own and resort on the host's DNA to replicate). Well, I supposed this had nothing to do with our case, just came to my mind <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1785294, member: 1465"] By the SRD, "Constitution represents your character’s health and stamina." A creature who is not alive shouldn't have constitution IMO because it doesn't have a health. As you point out, Elementals still have a Con score; they don't breathe, eat or sleep, they share many immunities with undead and constructs (poison for example is something that requires the target to have a metabolism to affect it), but are still required to make fortitude saves to resist some other effects. They are indeed alive in their own way, but differently from other living things - for example they cannot be resurrected. I have no idea if there's a reason behind all this, but eventually the result is that elementals are somewhat half-way between mortals and nonliving beings. It may be hard to accept... however it reminds me of when in old biology class the teacher explained that the limit between life and non-life is blurred in the real world as well, with viruses raising questions whether they should be considered living (unintelligent but still with a mockery of lifecycle) or not (they don't have a DNA on their own and resort on the host's DNA to replicate). Well, I supposed this had nothing to do with our case, just came to my mind :p [/QUOTE]
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