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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4975469" data-attributes="member: 82504">I think you have to read the Silmarillion a much less popular book than the LOTR to catch that though and you have to have better memory than I <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> &quot;For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar; &quot;Gives us orcs atleast as a reproducing race... half-orcs a corruption instigated later by Saruman (perhaps as spies who had to take on a bigger role after he lost the majority of his power) is less absolute. But since I didnt like the taking of the shire except maybe the part about Sam stepping up to the plate as a leader... that whole ending part was an anticlimax.. instead of a resolution.&nbsp; The goblin like men seemed men corrupted not a breeding with orcs to my memory.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4975469, member: 82504"] I think you have to read the Silmarillion a much less popular book than the LOTR to catch that though and you have to have better memory than I ;) "For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar; " Gives us orcs atleast as a reproducing race... half-orcs a corruption instigated later by Saruman (perhaps as spies who had to take on a bigger role after he lost the majority of his power) is less absolute. But since I didnt like the taking of the shire except maybe the part about Sam stepping up to the plate as a leader... that whole ending part was an anticlimax.. instead of a resolution. The goblin like men seemed men corrupted not a breeding with orcs to my memory. [/QUOTE]

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