Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What if you brought 4E back to 1970?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 4979406" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p>AK-47's in WWII is no stretch at all -- the "47" means 1947, and the Germans had an assault rifle in 1943. Plus, items like the RPG are not really game-changingly different from bazookas and the panzerfausts invented during WWII. Artillery and heavy weapons are often either the same weapons as then (.50 cal), or slightly modernized versions (105 mm howitzer, 81 mm mortar, etc.).</p><p></p><p>Harry Turtledove, "In Guns of the South", had the South winning the Civil War because of AK-47's brought by time travellers. However, IIRC, they were importing them from the future, and the Southerners found it very expensive to reverse engineer -- but they were working on it.</p><p></p><p>If the time travelers had gone to the North, I suspect the Springfield Armory or Samuel Colt's firearms factory in Connecticut could have cracked the code and reproduced it. In the 1980s, I remember hearing there were metal shops in Afghanistan and Pakistan making ersatz AK's . . . </p><p></p><p>If you're thinking aircraft, OK, that is a different story . . . </p><p></p><p>As for analogy back to the original question of 4e in 1970, folks were not Neanderthals back then. They could have adopted it, reprinted it, and used it, if they wanted it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 4979406, member: 25619"] AK-47's in WWII is no stretch at all -- the "47" means 1947, and the Germans had an assault rifle in 1943. Plus, items like the RPG are not really game-changingly different from bazookas and the panzerfausts invented during WWII. Artillery and heavy weapons are often either the same weapons as then (.50 cal), or slightly modernized versions (105 mm howitzer, 81 mm mortar, etc.). Harry Turtledove, "In Guns of the South", had the South winning the Civil War because of AK-47's brought by time travellers. However, IIRC, they were importing them from the future, and the Southerners found it very expensive to reverse engineer -- but they were working on it. If the time travelers had gone to the North, I suspect the Springfield Armory or Samuel Colt's firearms factory in Connecticut could have cracked the code and reproduced it. In the 1980s, I remember hearing there were metal shops in Afghanistan and Pakistan making ersatz AK's . . . If you're thinking aircraft, OK, that is a different story . . . As for analogy back to the original question of 4e in 1970, folks were not Neanderthals back then. They could have adopted it, reprinted it, and used it, if they wanted it. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What if you brought 4E back to 1970?
Top