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<blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 1405706" data-attributes="member: 1106"><p>And therein lies the clincher, I think. 1E, to draw an analogy between a body and a game system*, most people would happily ignore what could be considered fingers or toes of the rules system, such as the polearm modifiers versus armour types rules, and still pretend you had a semblance of balance. The things people might like to ignore to "speed up" or "simplify" the system come 3E, such as the feat or skill subsystems, are tightly integrated vital organs, and it's more difficult to pretend that you've still got an intact game once they've been extracted.</p><p></p><p>Now, jasamcarl, I've seen you argue before that this point is moot because 1E had no balance to speak of. The reality of it matters less than what people accept as balanced, and the bleeding wounds that the 3E system suffers from ripping out the feat or skill systems are in an entirely different league as the nips and tucks all DMs seemed to make in playing 1E, such that it's easier to accept a slightly meddled with 1E as intact than a largely modified 3E, with repercussions springing up everywhere from classes to spells to CR.</p><p></p><p>*: Yes, silly I know, but bear with me...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rounser, post: 1405706, member: 1106"] And therein lies the clincher, I think. 1E, to draw an analogy between a body and a game system*, most people would happily ignore what could be considered fingers or toes of the rules system, such as the polearm modifiers versus armour types rules, and still pretend you had a semblance of balance. The things people might like to ignore to "speed up" or "simplify" the system come 3E, such as the feat or skill subsystems, are tightly integrated vital organs, and it's more difficult to pretend that you've still got an intact game once they've been extracted. Now, jasamcarl, I've seen you argue before that this point is moot because 1E had no balance to speak of. The reality of it matters less than what people accept as balanced, and the bleeding wounds that the 3E system suffers from ripping out the feat or skill systems are in an entirely different league as the nips and tucks all DMs seemed to make in playing 1E, such that it's easier to accept a slightly meddled with 1E as intact than a largely modified 3E, with repercussions springing up everywhere from classes to spells to CR. *: Yes, silly I know, but bear with me... [/QUOTE]
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