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<blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 3036231" data-attributes="member: 20239">In my opinion there's a distinct difference between a dungeon* and other &quot;walled space&quot; environments in the game.&nbsp; A place that simply restricts movement along pre-determined lines isn't necessarily a dungeon.&nbsp; I might call those things by other names (a lair, a castle, a building, a cavern comlex, etc.) but even an underground complex constructed for the purpose of holding prisoners doesn't qualify as a dungeonif it doesn't meet certain requirements.&nbsp; Among these...1 - It must be &quot;the unknown&quot; to the PCs.&nbsp; A dungeon is a place of mystery.2 - It must be a structure NOT being used by its original creator for its original purpose.&nbsp; The concept of a dungeon, to me, implies a place which has been abandoned and later re-populated by dangerous creatures.3 - It must be large.&nbsp; A simple collection of 8 or so rooms isn't enough to provide the atmosphere of a real &quot;dungeon&quot;.&nbsp; If it's not large enough for you to get lost in, it's not a real dungeon.*Note that I'm using the term dungeon to mean something very specific in game terms and not the real world definition.&nbsp; If this were a discussion about the real world definition we'd all just look up the term in the dictionary.&nbsp; For purposes of this post, dungeon is used to describe a very specific adventuring environment.Examples of dungeons in published adventures...B1 In Search of the UnknownT1 Village of Hommlet (the Moathouse, although this is a little on the small side)A1 Slaves Pits of the UndercityJudges Guild's Tegel Manorand of course, the original dungeon of dungeons, Castle Greyhawk.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ourph, post: 3036231, member: 20239"] In my opinion there's a distinct difference between a dungeon* and other "walled space" environments in the game. A place that simply restricts movement along pre-determined lines isn't necessarily a dungeon. I might call those things by other names (a lair, a castle, a building, a cavern comlex, etc.) but even an underground complex constructed for the purpose of holding prisoners doesn't qualify as a dungeonif it doesn't meet certain requirements. Among these... 1 - It must be "the unknown" to the PCs. A dungeon is a place of mystery. 2 - It must be a structure NOT being used by its original creator for its original purpose. The concept of a dungeon, to me, implies a place which has been abandoned and later re-populated by dangerous creatures. 3 - It must be large. A simple collection of 8 or so rooms isn't enough to provide the atmosphere of a real "dungeon". If it's not large enough for you to get lost in, it's not a real dungeon. *Note that I'm using the term dungeon to mean something very specific in game terms and not the real world definition. If this were a discussion about the real world definition we'd all just look up the term in the dictionary. For purposes of this post, dungeon is used to describe a very specific adventuring environment. Examples of dungeons in published adventures... B1 In Search of the Unknown T1 Village of Hommlet (the Moathouse, although this is a little on the small side) A1 Slaves Pits of the Undercity Judges Guild's Tegel Manor and of course, the original dungeon of dungeons, Castle Greyhawk. [/QUOTE]

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