Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 7844381" data-attributes="member: 7015698">This is something that as come up a few time in the Zouave thread: What does it mean to be a level 1 Fighter, exactly?Here is what the class description has to say about Fighters:I posit that the default fluff, and thus what informs the mechanical design of the Fighter, is someone who has had extensive training and already fought many battles before turning to a life of adventure.Meanwhile, you have others like Paul Farquhar who say:(Not picking on him or anything, he was just a good quote)Which is a view I think is unfair to the Fighter because it's used to diminish what they can or COULD potentially do. Wizards having spent years studying magic is basically the default for the Wizard class, but not the Fighter? I think level 1 should be level 1 for everyone (barring Sorcerer and Warlock maybe).While I think you absolutely CAN roleplay that classless character with a Fighter (or any class really), I don't believe it is the default assumption on which the class is MECHANICALLY based. I don't believe you can be a Fighter without special training. It doesn't mean you can't be a farm boy, but you gotta have swung a sword a few times otherwise you wouldn't have proficiency with it. Same with the armor proficiencies.Hence why I put the poll in this thread: What is your default image of a level 1 Fighter? The first thing that comes to mind?I think this also raise the question of what it means to have a level? What steps should a commoner take to go from only having a Background to having a Class Level? Sure, a level 1 hero has 0 XP, but I don't think it automatically means they have no relevant experience either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 7844381, member: 7015698"] This is something that as come up a few time in the Zouave thread: What does it mean to be a level 1 Fighter, exactly? Here is what the class description has to say about Fighters: I posit that the default fluff, and thus what informs the mechanical design of the Fighter, is someone who has had extensive training and already fought many battles before turning to a life of adventure. Meanwhile, you have others like Paul Farquhar who say: (Not picking on him or anything, he was just a good quote) Which is a view I think is unfair to the Fighter because it's used to diminish what they can or COULD potentially do. Wizards having spent years studying magic is basically the default for the Wizard class, but not the Fighter? I think level 1 should be level 1 for everyone (barring Sorcerer and Warlock maybe). While I think you absolutely CAN roleplay that classless character with a Fighter (or any class really), I don't believe it is the default assumption on which the class is MECHANICALLY based. I don't believe you can be a Fighter without special training. It doesn't mean you can't be a farm boy, but you gotta have swung a sword a few times otherwise you wouldn't have proficiency with it. Same with the armor proficiencies. Hence why I put the poll in this thread: What is your default image of a level 1 Fighter? The first thing that comes to mind? I think this also raise the question of what it means to have a level? What steps should a commoner take to go from only having a Background to having a Class Level? Sure, a level 1 hero has 0 XP, but I don't think it automatically means they have no relevant experience either. [/QUOTE]

Verification