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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7844716" data-attributes="member: 58172">That is a fair point. A level 1 Fighter with the Soldier Background, is by definition a ‘veteran’ in the other sense of having served in the military or having survived war.When I realized there were two totally different definitions of the word ‘veteran’, I became more sympathetic toward those who were talking about a ‘Level 1 veteran’.To be clear, when I use the word ‘veteran’, I mean someone who is a ‘master’ − someone who is extremely experienced.In fact, I am highly consistent in my view of leveling tiers for many years, since the beginnings of 4e.Levels 1-4: ApprenticeLevels 5-8: ProfessionalLevels 9-12: MasterLevels 13-16: LeaderLevels 17-20: LegendLevels 21+: Epic(But even Epic levels seem useful to subdivide.)There have been variations, but these groups of four levels have been in place for many years now.This thread has shifted my view slightly. Earlier, I was of the view that a level 1 character is still in highschool, say 16 years old. But some of the considerations in this thread make me feel more certain that Level 1 is beginning college − after having graduated highschool. The highschool Level-Oners, were really advanced highschool students who were effectively at college level.People can be self-taught. I have no difficulty with people mastering an area of expertise without formal training. But these same people can take a college exam and succeed at the appropriate college level. (It might take them a moment to translate their experience into a college experience, but they can do it. They know their stuff.)So:• High School Diploma − begins Level 1• Associates Degree − begins Level 3• Bachelors Degree − begins Level 5‘Normally’, this corresponds to ages 18, 20, and 22, respectively.But individuals can vary drastically − especially if they are unusually talented ahead of the curve, or ‘multiclassing’ elsewhere thus behind the curve.‘Multiple’ deployments? Honestly I assume is Tier 2 or higher, depending on how many ‘encounters’ he survived.For me, ‘veteran’ ≈ ‘guru’.Well, for example, in medieval England, a ‘farm boy’ likely is required by law to have been training in combat.And a ‘farm hand’ is a tier of advancement above a ‘boy’.As I mentioned in a post above. When I use the word ‘veteran’, I mean someone who is accomplished.</blockquote>

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