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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9409040" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I don't think so.</p><p></p><p>I think you're misunderstanding Lucas. I mean, he's the one who came up with the Jedi, he's not misunderstanding his own work, for god's sake, he's a bit of a kook but he's not stupid.</p><p></p><p>I think rather what people struggle with is that Lucas thought that for the Jedi to have failed to have to stop the Sith, especially when there were only two "real" Sith, LOGICALLY, the Jedi must have SCREWED THE POOCH lol.</p><p></p><p>And then Lucas thought about how the Jedi screwed the pooch, and frankly, what he came up with makes a tremendous amount of intuitive sense. Humans are not good at locking down their emotions in the way the Jedi demand, and the Jedi have too staid and pushy for their own good.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is true but let's not for one second pretend many (many!) similar deals from "the ancient past" are total and complete "fail" in the same regards, full of absolutely awful and stupid ideas about how you should control and deny yourself. That the Jedi are on a bad course because of that should not surprise you, given historical examples. I'll avoid specifics but there are an awful lot of ascetic groups in history and the present, across many religions and belief structures, that if given lightsabers, Force powers, and a mandate of "make the world a better place", would do a much WORSE job than the Jedi!</p><p></p><p>As an aside, even stuff like mindfulness, as practiced in certain ways, has been shown to be very damaging to some people, especially as 90% of people who teach it are not amazing Bodhisattvas but like, just random people full of failings, prejudice and ignorance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9409040, member: 18"] I don't think so. I think you're misunderstanding Lucas. I mean, he's the one who came up with the Jedi, he's not misunderstanding his own work, for god's sake, he's a bit of a kook but he's not stupid. I think rather what people struggle with is that Lucas thought that for the Jedi to have failed to have to stop the Sith, especially when there were only two "real" Sith, LOGICALLY, the Jedi must have SCREWED THE POOCH lol. And then Lucas thought about how the Jedi screwed the pooch, and frankly, what he came up with makes a tremendous amount of intuitive sense. Humans are not good at locking down their emotions in the way the Jedi demand, and the Jedi have too staid and pushy for their own good. This is true but let's not for one second pretend many (many!) similar deals from "the ancient past" are total and complete "fail" in the same regards, full of absolutely awful and stupid ideas about how you should control and deny yourself. That the Jedi are on a bad course because of that should not surprise you, given historical examples. I'll avoid specifics but there are an awful lot of ascetic groups in history and the present, across many religions and belief structures, that if given lightsabers, Force powers, and a mandate of "make the world a better place", would do a much WORSE job than the Jedi! As an aside, even stuff like mindfulness, as practiced in certain ways, has been shown to be very damaging to some people, especially as 90% of people who teach it are not amazing Bodhisattvas but like, just random people full of failings, prejudice and ignorance. [/QUOTE]
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