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<blockquote data-quote="Greenstone.Walker" data-source="post: 8963928" data-attributes="member: 6788312">I do it the other way around. The DC is fixed, the players have to identify things that their characters can do to improve the odds, just like when they are hitting foes with weapons and spells.For example: I've decided that getting into the Duke's keep is a difficult task, that the guards are all reasonably competant, that the walls are tough and the doors well locked. So, DC 20.Roll, try to get 20.If they have some forged documents they found, that's good for advantage.If they did some research and try to sway the guard with inside knowledge (spear pfishing), advantage.If they steal an invitation from a legitimate guest, automatic success.If they do a background check on the guards and find one they can blackmail, automatic success.If they just waltz up to the game with no prior research of planning and try to bluff the guard, roll at normal. If they waltz up to the gate and immediately cast a spell, automatic failure (and probably a fight).In other words, the GM presents an obstacle and difficulty and it's up to the players to choose how to overcome it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenstone.Walker, post: 8963928, member: 6788312"] I do it the other way around. The DC is fixed, the players have to identify things that their characters can do to improve the odds, just like when they are hitting foes with weapons and spells. For example: I've decided that getting into the Duke's keep is a difficult task, that the guards are all reasonably competant, that the walls are tough and the doors well locked. So, DC 20. Roll, try to get 20. If they have some forged documents they found, that's good for advantage. If they did some research and try to sway the guard with inside knowledge (spear pfishing), advantage. If they steal an invitation from a legitimate guest, automatic success. If they do a background check on the guards and find one they can blackmail, automatic success. If they just waltz up to the game with no prior research of planning and try to bluff the guard, roll at normal. If they waltz up to the gate and immediately cast a spell, automatic failure (and probably a fight). In other words, the GM presents an obstacle and difficulty and it's up to the players to choose how to overcome it. [/QUOTE]

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