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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 8634297" data-attributes="member: 28487">My own head canon is that all all non divine spells are rituals that. For casters like Wizards, Warlocks and Sorcerers they are rituals that act as templates to shape magic that are held by the caster in their magic aura and released by words and gestures. So for example, with regards to counterspell, I would not allow a counter spell to a subtle spell. The caster counterspelling is relying on familiarity with magic to interrupt the other casters spell release. Thus, the new spells, are not counterspelling because those npc casters have made the effort to make those specific magical spell impossible to counter spell.If a pc caster wanted to do something similarly I would let them make a deception check to pull it off.Clerics I regard as using prayer and the spell effect is the divine response, the player is acting as the god by picking the spell.</blockquote>