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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 9640835" data-attributes="member: 9254"><p>IMO the "superhero genre" involves individuals who have unique, usually personal, special abilities beyond the norm for the setting and they use those powers to protect "normals" from evil people with special abilities beyond the norm.</p><p></p><p>I.e. Fifth Element is an action movie not a superhero movie, being Diehard in the future. None of the humans are "super" though they have future tech and Corbin/McClain take damage and could be killed. Leelu might be a superhero if she is unique, but she appears to be a Mondochiwan soldier, making her at most the Corbin Dallas of the Mondochiwans.</p><p></p><p>Star Wars is a sci fi movie, not super hero, because Jedi are an order where numerous people can acquire that power, but the Order has been suppressed so only a few Jedi remain. It's the Three Musketeers in space with laser swords.</p><p></p><p>Unbreakable is a superhero genre origin movie movie because David Dunn is capable of extreme physical acts, is semi-invulnerable and has some psychic senses.</p><p></p><p>Robocop is also a superhero movie because he is a prototype, further more he fights the programming to behave as a hero. In the sequel he is proven to be unique because everyone else who is 'borged commits suicide, except for a drug-addict criminal, resulting in robocop vs robocop2.</p><p></p><p>Punisher is an antihero in a superhero genre. Harley Quinn is either a villain, anti-hero or hero, depending on which incarnation. In no cases are they ever really "super", as at most they have olympian-levels of physical ability combined with various mental psychosis on top of normal human intelligence. </p><p></p><p>The Joker is a supervillain despite having no special physical ability, as he seems to have some kind of superhuman ability to acquire resources, discover ways to control people, collect minions, even being able to mentally break a criminal psychologist.</p><p></p><p>Lex Luthor is a super villain because he is a genius weapons designer, essentially evil Tony Stark/evil Batman, making superman-class devices, while having some of Joker's ability to collect loyal minions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 9640835, member: 9254"] IMO the "superhero genre" involves individuals who have unique, usually personal, special abilities beyond the norm for the setting and they use those powers to protect "normals" from evil people with special abilities beyond the norm. I.e. Fifth Element is an action movie not a superhero movie, being Diehard in the future. None of the humans are "super" though they have future tech and Corbin/McClain take damage and could be killed. Leelu might be a superhero if she is unique, but she appears to be a Mondochiwan soldier, making her at most the Corbin Dallas of the Mondochiwans. Star Wars is a sci fi movie, not super hero, because Jedi are an order where numerous people can acquire that power, but the Order has been suppressed so only a few Jedi remain. It's the Three Musketeers in space with laser swords. Unbreakable is a superhero genre origin movie movie because David Dunn is capable of extreme physical acts, is semi-invulnerable and has some psychic senses. Robocop is also a superhero movie because he is a prototype, further more he fights the programming to behave as a hero. In the sequel he is proven to be unique because everyone else who is 'borged commits suicide, except for a drug-addict criminal, resulting in robocop vs robocop2. Punisher is an antihero in a superhero genre. Harley Quinn is either a villain, anti-hero or hero, depending on which incarnation. In no cases are they ever really "super", as at most they have olympian-levels of physical ability combined with various mental psychosis on top of normal human intelligence. The Joker is a supervillain despite having no special physical ability, as he seems to have some kind of superhuman ability to acquire resources, discover ways to control people, collect minions, even being able to mentally break a criminal psychologist. Lex Luthor is a super villain because he is a genius weapons designer, essentially evil Tony Stark/evil Batman, making superman-class devices, while having some of Joker's ability to collect loyal minions. [/QUOTE]
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