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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sir Brennen" data-source="post: 8845213" data-attributes="member: 553">If classes which currently start with their subclass at first level, such as warlocks, wizards and sorcerers, have their subclass choice moved to third, what would theses classes even look like their first couple of levels?Wizards are pretty easy, as one who hasn’t specialized yet is still a recognizable student of the arcane arts. But what about a warlock? If the idea is to remove the “blocker” of extra choices like cleric domains from initial character creation, the. What does that mean for selecting a patron? One could argue a warlock’s patron is a more mechanically important decision than a cleric’s deity, since their domain subclass choice can be selected independently of their deity, since one deity can have multiple domains. But choice of a patron dictates a warlock’s powers directly, closely followed by Pact selection.So, what even is a warlock without a patron yet? Same for a sorcerer. Their subclass is literally called “sorcerous origin”. What exactly is such a character that hasn’t selected their origin until third level?Thoughts on how WotC might approach this issue if they stick to starting all subclasses starting at third level?</blockquote>