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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6728547" data-attributes="member: 22779">Again, I find this baffling.AD&D had none of the rules that you find in 5e.  About the only commonality is speed of play.  5e plays at just about the same speed as AD&D.  Cool.  It's light years faster playing and simpler than Pathfinder or 3e.  Good grief, you can't play a large swath of straight, 3e PHB classes in 5e.  I want to play a summoning wizard... oops, sorry, nope, not happening.  I want to play a 3e Druid with a scaling pet ... nope, not happening.  Good grief, 5e has teleporting paladins and flying barbarians.  That's about as far from AD&D or 3e as you can get.  I can play a spell casting monk in 5e, something that has never appeared before.  My Battlemaster fighter has encounter powers.  What is the 3e equivalent to that?  What underlying gameplay is similar?  See, I go by the character sheet test.  If you can hand the character sheet of one game to a player of another game and he or she can sit down and play, then those two games are close enough.  A 1e character can pick up a 2e character sheet and play without any real difficulty - there's a few hiccups but not much.  A 5e player can look at a 4e character sheet and find more similarities than differences.  Saving throws are different of course, and the numbers might be a bit different, but, not too much.  It's not like you have stats in the mid-20's or 30's on a 4e character sheet (at least very often <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />).  Hand a 5e player a 3e character sheet and he won't have a clue what to do with it.  The numbers are very different.  The skill system numbers are generated in a far more complex manner (5e lacks synergy bonuses for one, and there is no skill points in 5e - where are these numbers coming from on a 3e sheet?)  The magic system for 5e is completely different.  All 5e casters are now sorcerers.  3e casters lack at-will powers and are far, far more complex than 5e.  You could take a 4e character and actually play it in a 5e game, and it would work.  The only thing you'd have to do is remove the half-level number increases.  Other than that, it would work pretty much exactly the same as a 5e character.  4e characters are more complex in that they are heavily tied to the battlement due to movement powers.  But, other than that, you'd be pretty close.</blockquote>

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