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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5944120" data-attributes="member: 2067">Only with certain assumptions. For example, if you can only benefit from natural healing if you haven't been healed in the same day (and the rates are roughly similar), healing abilities become like an accelerated short rest: either one or the other, but not both. This cleaves a little closely to 4e's healing surge rules, but I kind of like it, personally. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And then there's the case that not everyone has a problem with that. That "high magic and clerics/wands/potions etc." IS default D&D for a lot of people. If 5e is true to its word that treasure is optional, it still doesn't fall into 3e's "I poke you with my feel good stick until you're better" trap, and a cleric needs to spend all of their spells on healing (which, if they didn't spend their spells on anything DURING combat, they might as well, I suppose).  I don't follow.Falling can kill you. A pillow mitigates the consequences of falling. A big enough fall will kill you. A big enough pillow will save your life if you fall. Or, a gilder.Or, a pool of water.Or whatever.The things that mitigate the consequences of smacking into the ground too fast do stop you from dying from smacking into the ground too fast. This is part of what I sometimes call Schrodinger's Hit Points. Shortly, it's a problem when you decide after the fact that the attack was not potentially fatal. If D&D HP damage can kill you, you have to assume that all HP damage is done with the potential to kill, or you enter a position where you don't know what the HP damage represents until someone tries to heal it, at which point you invent some justification for why that healing works.That gets things entirely backwards from how the rest of the game is played, wherein the DM-player call-and-response is based on each one establishing some information about the game world.If the thing cannot kill you, it shouldn't be doing HP damage, because HP damage, mechanically, can kill you.If the thing can kill you, then effects that restore HP need to undo things that can kill you.In D&D, which relies on a call-and-response core dynamic, it's important to know how to call and respond, and that relies on a shared knowledge of the current state of the game world. There's problems for a LOT of people with an effect that cannot be defined until it is removed. It is like dithering in improv. Not making choices means that others cannot respond to your choice. Keeping things vague means that others cannot act on the information in the world. Some groups have zero problem with this, and are more comfortable with a more gamist scenario where the game effect is justified by whatever fiction works, but that's not something that is necessary for a good D&D game, so the problems it DOES create seem far too vast to require that everyone play the game that way. It is fairly easy to add back in once it's taken out.</blockquote>

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