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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3781917" data-attributes="member: 1656">The full attack action is a full round action that allows you to make potentially several attacks, melee or ranged or a combination.The charge action is a full round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed in a straight line directly towards an opponent and make a single melee attack with a +2 bonus while taking a -2 penalty to AC.The two are completely unrelated.&nbsp; It's like saying &quot;Why isn't the charge action a Cast a Spell action?&quot;If you say &quot;The charge action is a full attack action&quot;, then suddenly anything that says &quot;You must take the full attack action to gain this extra attack&quot; can be used on a charge action.&nbsp; I charge... and because charge is a full attack action, I can get my extra attack from Rapid Shot, my off-hand attacks, and my extra attack from Haste.I've already given you the Charge action as an example.The Cast a Spell action can allow you to make a melee touch attack, but it is not the Attack action.And I've quoted where the rules refer to &quot;a melee attack, not an action&quot;, clearly distinguishing between the attack and the action that permits the attack.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3781917, member: 1656"] The full attack action is a full round action that allows you to make potentially several attacks, melee or ranged or a combination. The charge action is a full round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed in a straight line directly towards an opponent and make a single melee attack with a +2 bonus while taking a -2 penalty to AC. The two are completely unrelated. It's like saying "Why isn't the charge action a Cast a Spell action?" If you say "The charge action is a full attack action", then suddenly anything that says "You must take the full attack action to gain this extra attack" can be used on a charge action. I charge... and because charge is a full attack action, I can get my extra attack from Rapid Shot, my off-hand attacks, and my extra attack from Haste. I've already given you the Charge action as an example. The Cast a Spell action can allow you to make a melee touch attack, but it is not the Attack action. And I've quoted where the rules refer to "a melee attack, not an action", clearly distinguishing between the attack and the action that permits the attack. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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