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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7732506" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I was addressing the usage of the term &quot;practical&quot;.&nbsp; You mean &quot;practical as a vessel for sustaining a 5+ year campaign&quot;&nbsp; That is quite a different thing.&nbsp; And honestly, not very compelling due to the minority of games that reach that stage (hell, my guess is way less than 1 % of D&amp;D games even sustain 2 years worth of play).&nbsp; Consequently, I don't see much value in that metric.But let me do some accounting of my GMing and length of games since 1984.Classic Traveller:&nbsp; Multiple games that just got off the ground but didn't last.AD&amp;D game:&nbsp; Ongoing 22 years (we very rarely play this one, but we get together about once a year now).&nbsp; Its not rewarding at all at this point.&nbsp; Its just social grease and a laugh.&nbsp;&nbsp; One game 7 years.&nbsp; Tons of one shot dungeon crawls.BECMI game:&nbsp; 8 years.&nbsp; Tons of dungeon crawls that lasted a few months so Basic to Expert.&nbsp; The latter has all been very rewarding.3.x game:&nbsp; 4 year game and 1 year game.4e game:&nbsp; 2 * 3.5 - 4 years @ 1 - 30 levels.&nbsp; Both very rewarding.&nbsp; A few short games.5e game:&nbsp; Several (very unrewarding but I'm a charitable sort) stand-ins for a negligent GM.&nbsp; They've been playing since release and I know he has GM Forced his way out of several TPKs to keep his hexcrawl game and his metaplot alive.&nbsp; Call of Cthulu:&nbsp; Meh.&nbsp; I can GM Force my way through preconceived metaplot very deftly but it doesn't do much for me.&nbsp; I've GMed 1-2 session games 4 times I think?Sorceror:&nbsp; A few games of 4-5 sessions.My Life With Master:&nbsp; 6 games of 1-3 sessions.&nbsp; All concluded.&nbsp; All very satisfying. Dogs in the Vineyard:&nbsp; Ongoing 12 year game that is played very sparingly but is extremely rewarding every time its played.&nbsp; Several games of length 1 - 20 sessions.&nbsp; All concluded in very satisfying manner.Mouse Guard:&nbsp; Several short games of a few months.&nbsp; All very satisfying.The One Ring (forgot about this one):&nbsp; 3 games of length 4-12 sessions.&nbsp; All very satisfying.Dread:&nbsp; Multiple 1 or 2 shots.&nbsp; Extremely satisfying.Cortex+ (MHRP/Heroic Fantasy Hack/Leverage/Smallville):&nbsp; Ummm...12ish games from one shots to 12ish sessions.&nbsp; Two are ongoing and could last a long time if need be.10 Candles:&nbsp; 3 short games.Apocalypse World:&nbsp; 1 game ongoing 4 years, played sparingly but very satisfying.&nbsp; Several games of 1 - 4 sessions.Dungeon World:&nbsp; 1 game @ 2.5 years.&nbsp; Several one shots or 1 - 12 sessions (and a Darkest Dungeon Hack game)Fate (including Core):&nbsp; 5ish games in the vicinity of 1 shots.Blades in the Dark/Masks/Monsterhearts:&nbsp; About 10 games from 1 session to 12 including a current Blades game around 20 sessions in that could easily go for a looooooooooooong...loooooooooooong time.[HR][/HR]That is a lot of games...but a vanishingly short list of &quot;practical&quot; games!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 7732506, member: 6696971"] I was addressing the usage of the term "practical". You mean "practical as a vessel for sustaining a 5+ year campaign" That is quite a different thing. And honestly, not very compelling due to the minority of games that reach that stage (hell, my guess is way less than 1 % of D&D games even sustain 2 years worth of play). Consequently, I don't see much value in that metric. But let me do some accounting of my GMing and length of games since 1984. Classic Traveller: Multiple games that just got off the ground but didn't last. AD&D game: Ongoing 22 years (we very rarely play this one, but we get together about once a year now). Its not rewarding at all at this point. Its just social grease and a laugh. One game 7 years. Tons of one shot dungeon crawls. BECMI game: 8 years. Tons of dungeon crawls that lasted a few months so Basic to Expert. The latter has all been very rewarding. 3.x game: 4 year game and 1 year game. 4e game: 2 * 3.5 - 4 years @ 1 - 30 levels. Both very rewarding. A few short games. 5e game: Several (very unrewarding but I'm a charitable sort) stand-ins for a negligent GM. They've been playing since release and I know he has GM Forced his way out of several TPKs to keep his hexcrawl game and his metaplot alive. Call of Cthulu: Meh. I can GM Force my way through preconceived metaplot very deftly but it doesn't do much for me. I've GMed 1-2 session games 4 times I think? Sorceror: A few games of 4-5 sessions. My Life With Master: 6 games of 1-3 sessions. All concluded. All very satisfying. Dogs in the Vineyard: Ongoing 12 year game that is played very sparingly but is extremely rewarding every time its played. Several games of length 1 - 20 sessions. All concluded in very satisfying manner. Mouse Guard: Several short games of a few months. All very satisfying. The One Ring (forgot about this one): 3 games of length 4-12 sessions. All very satisfying. Dread: Multiple 1 or 2 shots. Extremely satisfying. Cortex+ (MHRP/Heroic Fantasy Hack/Leverage/Smallville): Ummm...12ish games from one shots to 12ish sessions. Two are ongoing and could last a long time if need be. 10 Candles: 3 short games. Apocalypse World: 1 game ongoing 4 years, played sparingly but very satisfying. Several games of 1 - 4 sessions. Dungeon World: 1 game @ 2.5 years. Several one shots or 1 - 12 sessions (and a Darkest Dungeon Hack game) Fate (including Core): 5ish games in the vicinity of 1 shots. Blades in the Dark/Masks/Monsterhearts: About 10 games from 1 session to 12 including a current Blades game around 20 sessions in that could easily go for a looooooooooooong...loooooooooooong time. [HR][/HR] That is a lot of games...but a vanishingly short list of "practical" games! [/QUOTE]

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