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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CreamCloud0" data-source="post: 9489046" data-attributes="member: 7034710">because casters already have a laundry list of options that provide versatility or allow them to influence things and martials have pretty much diddly squat? like, let's just look at what offensive cantrips ALONE provide shall we? i'll skip over the fact that most if not all of them deal some form of energy damage, quite a few have range and in general can target a range of saves amongst themselves as an alternative to attack rolls.Acid splash - multitargetBooming blade - movement controlChill touch - healing control, applies attack roll disadvantage to certain foesCreate bonfire - persistant hazard creationEldritch Blast - N/A (although invocations can give a range of additional effects)Firebolt - N/A (can ignite flammable objects but i'd label that as ribbon ability)Frostbite - defensive controlGreen flame blade - autohit damage to secondary targetInfestation - forced (if uncontroled) movementLightning lure - forced movementMind sliver - weakens savesPoison spray - N/APrimal savagery - N/AProduce flame - N/ARay of frost - movement controlSacred flame - ignores coverSapping sting - inflict condition (prone)Shocking grasp - action economy control, advantage against certain targetsSword burst - AoEThorn whip - forced movementThunderclap - AoEToll the dead - conditional extra damageVicious mockery - attack roll disadvantageWord of radiance - AoEthat's four cantrips, five if you stretch to include eldritch blast which can gain riders, that purely do straight basic damage to single target without any form of additional bonus or somesuch in a single action out of twenty-four cantrips, not to mention the pages upon pages of leveled spells that are bigger and badder than these, that's why martials deserve battlemaster and casters don't.</blockquote>

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