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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8626399" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Well there's your problem.Most groups do not actually follow these guidelines. Crawford has said as much. This is why they're (tacitly) switching to a &quot;PB per long rest&quot; model rather than a &quot;1 or 2 per short rest&quot; model going forward. 5.5e (if that ends up being what they call it) is extremely likely to heavily reduce the importance of short rests. There will likely still be abilities that trigger when taking them e.g. Arcane Recovery, Song of Rest, etc., but these will either be for just one short rest per day (which most groups DO take) as with the former, or will be simply triggered by and confined to those rests so there are no knock-on consequences or losses as with the latter. (Song of Rest is useful, but it doesn't define a Bard's utility for the day.)But yeah. If you were running numbers presuming people actually followed the 6-8 encounters and 2-3 short rests per day model, you have fallen into exactly the same trap its original creators did.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8626399, member: 6790260"] Well there's your problem. Most groups do not actually follow these guidelines. Crawford has said as much. This is why they're (tacitly) switching to a "PB per long rest" model rather than a "1 or 2 per short rest" model going forward. 5.5e (if that ends up being what they call it) is extremely likely to heavily reduce the importance of short rests. There will likely still be abilities that trigger when taking them e.g. Arcane Recovery, Song of Rest, etc., but these will either be for just one short rest per day (which most groups DO take) as with the former, or will be simply triggered by and confined to those rests so there are no knock-on consequences or losses as with the latter. (Song of Rest is useful, but it doesn't define a Bard's utility for the day.) But yeah. If you were running numbers presuming people actually followed the 6-8 encounters and 2-3 short rests per day model, you have fallen into exactly the same trap its original creators did. [/QUOTE]

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