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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 751250" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think the reason you are confused is the multiple uses of the term 'Celestial'.The celestial template simply means that you are native to the upper outer planes.A celestial dog is no more than a dog which is born in one of the planes of good.  In it is spiritually slightly more powerful than a normal dog, but it is basically a dog.The half-celestial template however implies not that you had a parent native to the upper outer planes, but that that parent was one of the powerful races of beings that are known collectively as Celestials.  For instance, if your parent was a Guardian Archon, or a Astral Deva, or a Planatar, then you would be a 'Half-Celestial'.If a normal hound mated with a celestial hound, the resulting offspring _WOULD NOT_ have the half-celestial template.  The would be normal dogs, or at best celestial dogs.  If an awakened hound mated with a hound archon (however odd that maybe), the offspring(s) would have the half-celestial template - half-celestial dogs.ECL for Half-Celestial should be at least +4 (not the +2 incorrectly given in the MM), and in my opinion +5 would not be a bad idea.   At high levels, half-celestials/fiends are enormously powerful due to thier spell progression and innate defences, and thier attribute advantages in STR, INT, and CON eventually make up for the difference in HD.</blockquote>