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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 2896011" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>I know people can't help metagaming sometimes when they know what a monster can do or what a spell can do when their PC shouldn't know. There's not much you can do about it but ask the player not to tell others and to try to play his PC as if the PC doesn't know.</p><p></p><p>But what type of things do you concider flat out cheating?</p><p></p><p>If a player looks up spells in the PHB just to figure out what spell the DM cast?</p><p></p><p>If a player knows a monster is immune to spells (but his PC doesn't) and he tells the group "I think these are immune to <em>all</em> spells?</p><p></p><p>If a player uses a program on his laptop to calculate ECL vs a monsters CR (he's not supposed to know the CR of the monster) and tells players that this monster is way to hard for them?</p><p></p><p>If a player purposely doesn't remind the DM of a rule the DM forgot about just so a PC won't suffer the effects? You suspect this because he coincidently brings it up 2 rounds later that you forgot something.</p><p></p><p>Do you think any/all/or none of these things is cheating? What other kind of incidents do you concider cheating that aren't so obvious? </p><p></p><p>Also, is it possible for a DM to cheat? If he's fudging things behind the screen simply to enhance the game, would you still find that cheating on the DM's part?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 2896011, member: 18701"] I know people can't help metagaming sometimes when they know what a monster can do or what a spell can do when their PC shouldn't know. There's not much you can do about it but ask the player not to tell others and to try to play his PC as if the PC doesn't know. But what type of things do you concider flat out cheating? If a player looks up spells in the PHB just to figure out what spell the DM cast? If a player knows a monster is immune to spells (but his PC doesn't) and he tells the group "I think these are immune to [i]all[/i] spells? If a player uses a program on his laptop to calculate ECL vs a monsters CR (he's not supposed to know the CR of the monster) and tells players that this monster is way to hard for them? If a player purposely doesn't remind the DM of a rule the DM forgot about just so a PC won't suffer the effects? You suspect this because he coincidently brings it up 2 rounds later that you forgot something. Do you think any/all/or none of these things is cheating? What other kind of incidents do you concider cheating that aren't so obvious? Also, is it possible for a DM to cheat? If he's fudging things behind the screen simply to enhance the game, would you still find that cheating on the DM's part? [/QUOTE]
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