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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 2898462" data-attributes="member: 11300">What does it mean for the fighter to have no ranks in spellcraft? How can a player play such a character "*effectively"? Does the wizard announce, "I smite the strength from thee with my Ray of Enfeeblement" when he casts the spell so that others in the party have a running commentary of what magic is actually being flung? If not, I'm not too sure my fighter with no ranks in spellcraft is going to follow the use of magic as well as what you are suggesting. Even with a good intelligence, the perception to realise what is being cast is not really there in my opinion. I think if he was trying to follow what the wizard was doing, he would make a lot of mistakes in doing so. And who is to say that Murgen's fireball looks the same as **Shimrod's anyway? Surely only those who have deeply studied magic would have a high level of precision in such matters.As for judging who is the best caster, would my fighter really have a clue unless it was dramatically obvious? [zwip versus BBBOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!! - which even in itself could be misleading.] I suppose what I'm saying is, is that I would not appreciate my players looking up a spell that they think one of my NPCs may have cast if their PC has no idea about such things (0 ranks in spellcraft). Whether it be to check up on it or see how "bad" it would be, I would consider this poor play.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise*Effectiveness of roleplay is decidely relative but I could think of no better word.** Maybe because Shimrod was "apprenticed" to Murgen, their fireballs would be but you know what I mean.</blockquote>

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