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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9607182" data-attributes="member: 6877472">Honestly?&nbsp; I think Charisma shouldn't be an ability score.&nbsp; If we'd prefer social negotiation to be role played and not to be &quot;roll Persuasion against made-up on the spot DC&quot; (or worse, not allowing rolls at all, because c'mon guys, nobody would be so gullible as to buy a bridge&quot;, completely ignoring how gullible real people are, lol), then why do we even have a social attribute?I'm of a similar mind when it comes to Intelligence or Wisdom- players are going to use their own intellects even if they try to &quot;dumb it down&quot;, and some forms of play (puzzles &amp; riddles) actually encourage that, and not many will be happy with a puzzle being solved with a quick die roll.&nbsp; I praised Earthdawn for having Perception and Willpower as stats instead, though they weren't brave enough to bypass Charisma (though at least they tried having a social combat system).I mean, it's like some people want there to be stats to rate certain qualities, but they don't really want those qualities to be used for anything beyond saving throws!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9607182, member: 6877472"] Honestly? I think Charisma shouldn't be an ability score. If we'd prefer social negotiation to be role played and not to be "roll Persuasion against made-up on the spot DC" (or worse, not allowing rolls at all, because c'mon guys, nobody would be so gullible as to buy a bridge", completely ignoring how gullible real people are, lol), then why do we even have a social attribute? I'm of a similar mind when it comes to Intelligence or Wisdom- players are going to use their own intellects even if they try to "dumb it down", and some forms of play (puzzles & riddles) actually encourage that, and not many will be happy with a puzzle being solved with a quick die roll. I praised Earthdawn for having Perception and Willpower as stats instead, though they weren't brave enough to bypass Charisma (though at least they tried having a social combat system). I mean, it's like some people want there to be stats to rate certain qualities, but they don't really want those qualities to be used for anything beyond saving throws! [/QUOTE]

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