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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darius101" data-source="post: 731994" data-attributes="member: 9466">Nice points Orius. They do not look at this board but they do look at "other" boards. I know this for a fact as Mike Moore from HMS is known on a board I frequent. His Nick was Propmonkey and he has changed it in the last few months. Also Gene and Majel's son Eugene "Rod" Roddenberry also frequents a board or two. I have talked with him on the phone and he has said that B&B are interested in what the fans are saying. They like to frequent the many boards to see what the buzz is about things they try. They do not fully understand why the franchise is floundering like it is. They were very surprised by the low box office take on Nemisis. My first reaction was look at what else was out at the time. Myrrden you are correct on the fact that many many fans of Trek are very dissatisfied with the new show. That is reflected in the ratings from week to week.  They never even approached him or Denise to reprise roles as they were never even written into the original script for the movie. Brent spiner wrote the rough idea for this last film. They called another writter to help write it. Onward and upward:The map you had pointed to uses a number of published sources for their information and that is where you get the discrepencies that were pointed out. One of the sources appears to be the Star Trek Concordence. Another Source is clearly the Spaceflight Chronology that came out in 1981 (maybe 1980). The Star Trek Encyclopedia is or was written by the staff of Next Gen with the idea being of putting into print all the information from the shows that they could use now and in the future. Some of it is off a little if you look at the old series..but it is a great book for reference.   This appears to be what they are using to try to have some consistancy and why the old timers like me notice such big differences with the cannon of the old series...it is irratating. About Roddenberry's vision for the future....Tolerence, Peace, Racial and sexual equality for all are all a part of it. He had great hope for the Human race. This is part of the original appeal of the show. To find out more I would read the making of book published in the 60's before you say they didn't feel Starfleet was military. The book is by Stephen Whittfiled and was republished in the 1990's. There are also a number of other books about the genisis and vision of Trek you can read. The Orions were pirates and slave traders in the old series much like they have portrayed the Ferengi as in a recent Enterprise episode. I also get the feeling that they are more Mafioso types in the 24th -25th Century. Rememember Enterprise is in the 22nd cenury according to their pilot episode. we should at least hear about the other ships like the Horizon (A piece of the Action) which made it to deepspace 100yrs before the Enterprise in the old series. Watch the episode "The Menagerie" Or "The Cage" and see how they changed the cannon to irritate us old timers. Oh and Yes the Vulcans already have shields. That was shown once and Archer was so mad he asked T'Poll what else the Vulcans were hiding from us Humans. WOW this is a much longer post than I intended...Enjoy, Darius  Prop Replica board that Viacom Frequents: <a href="http://pub23.ezboard.com/bpropreplicas" target="_blank">ASAP Dewback Wing</a></blockquote>

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