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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4487569" data-attributes="member: 65637">Pemerton - the elf comment wasn't directed at you.&nbsp; As for dragons, dragons aren't just random angels as we'd see in western mythology - they're far closer to gods.&nbsp; Most games don't have you challenging gods ;pHere's my issue with dwarves and orcs in an eastern setting - you'd have to do work to fit them in, and why bother when that work could just as easily go towards making it more eastern?&nbsp; Dark Sun didn't have orcs in it.&nbsp; At all.&nbsp; There were no orcs in it at any point in time.&nbsp; And yet we're being told that, thus, Dark Sun isn't D&amp;D because of it.Once again, my point is this - if you have the same generic races and places in it, then why would you even bother making a new setting?&nbsp; The whole purpose of the new setting is that it's supposed to be DIFFERENT.&nbsp; And in an eastern setting, there's simply no point in having elves and dwarves there when, instead, you could have other races that much more closely correspond with what comes from eastern mythology.&nbsp; I don't see the point in taking races VERY clearly from western mythology and trying to force them into eastern mythology.&nbsp; Square peg, meet circular hole.&nbsp; Literally - I don't see the point in trying to do that.&nbsp; It IS shallow, flat out - there's no deep method of watering down a new setting to the point where it's near indistinguishable from any other setting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 4487569, member: 65637"] Pemerton - the elf comment wasn't directed at you. As for dragons, dragons aren't just random angels as we'd see in western mythology - they're far closer to [I]gods[/I]. Most games don't have you challenging gods ;p Here's my issue with dwarves and orcs in an eastern setting - you'd have to do work to fit them in, and [I]why bother[/I] when that work could just as easily go towards making it more eastern? Dark Sun didn't have orcs in it. At all. There were no orcs in it at any point in time. And yet we're being told that, thus, Dark Sun isn't D&D because of it. Once again, my point is this - if you have the [B][I]same generic races and places[/I][/B] in it, then why would you even bother making a new setting? The whole purpose of the new setting is that it's supposed to be DIFFERENT. And in an eastern setting, there's simply no point in having elves and dwarves there when, instead, you could have other races that much more closely correspond with what comes from eastern mythology. I don't see the point in taking races VERY clearly from western mythology and [B]trying[/B] to force them into eastern mythology. Square peg, meet circular hole. Literally - I don't see the point in trying to do that. It IS shallow, flat out - there's no deep method of watering down a new setting to the point where it's near indistinguishable from any other setting. [/QUOTE]

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