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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5702339" data-attributes="member: 52734">For my bit, I don't agree it necessarily needs to be a new edition either.  It simply needs to be friendly towards introducing new players.  I consider neither Pathfinder nor 4E newbie-friendly in this manner.Right now the best way to get into this hobby is to hook up with someone who already knows how to play and let them help you puzzle it out.  How many people may have turned away from the game because they were faced with reading a 300+ page book just to begin learning the game, with no one who was already experienced with the game?   IMO, there needs to be an entry point into RPGs that's light enough you don't have to start out with an experienced group - something you can sit down and read in about 15-20 minutes to get started playing, and then graduate to the thicker books.There's been a couple stabs at making it friendly; back in 3E/3.5E there were a couple starters sets, then there is the 4E Red Box and the upcoming Pathfinder Beginner Set.  The 3E sets weren't very good (no character choices - pregen only, not playable beyond the included adventure).  Looking over the Red Box, I didn't think it was successful either (the player's book was too wordy, can't design characters outside of the choose-your-own-adventure book).  The previews for the PF set seem to be a little better (these things seem to keep evolving), but I don't think the right product has been made just yet.</blockquote>

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