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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8931934" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>So you want to limit the conversation to the point where D&D is already something like 95% of the industry. Okay. Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.</p><p></p><p>What point is that? That D&D is dominant to the point of grotesquely distorting the entire industry around it. That's not something many people could argue against.</p><p></p><p>Cool. So let's stop supporting an evil corporation with a mediocre system. Let's go support good companies (or at least neutral ones) with better systems. Hurray. RPG utopia achieved...oh wait...we try to do that and find that we can support those companies, but thanks to the downside of the network effect it's extremely hard to find players, referees, and actual games to play in outside of D&D.</p><p></p><p>Uhm...you must have me confused with someone else. I dislike Pathfinder more than I dislike 5E. And I kinda hate 5E. </p><p></p><p>I'm one of the people advocating for people to try other games, yes. But not because there is any one "light and the way". I'm actively arguing against that mentality that a lot of 5E players seem to have. There are other games. There are other companies to support. There are lighter systems. There are other genres. Go play other games. See what's out there. Not because I want all 5E players to switch to my system of choice. No thanks. I've spent the last decade playing with and running for 5E-only players. I can't get away from them fast enough. I'd just like enough of a fracturing of the fanbase to get enough players out of the 5E bubble to be able to play my games of choice.</p><p></p><p>Yes, you want to solve the "WotC and 5E are too dominant" problem by putting a different company who's putting out a 5E variant on the throne. That doesn't really solve the problem at all.</p><p></p><p>If the problem is "dictators are bad", then replacing one dictator with another won't actually solve the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8931934, member: 86653"] So you want to limit the conversation to the point where D&D is already something like 95% of the industry. Okay. Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. What point is that? That D&D is dominant to the point of grotesquely distorting the entire industry around it. That's not something many people could argue against. Cool. So let's stop supporting an evil corporation with a mediocre system. Let's go support good companies (or at least neutral ones) with better systems. Hurray. RPG utopia achieved...oh wait...we try to do that and find that we can support those companies, but thanks to the downside of the network effect it's extremely hard to find players, referees, and actual games to play in outside of D&D. Uhm...you must have me confused with someone else. I dislike Pathfinder more than I dislike 5E. And I kinda hate 5E. I'm one of the people advocating for people to try other games, yes. But not because there is any one "light and the way". I'm actively arguing against that mentality that a lot of 5E players seem to have. There are other games. There are other companies to support. There are lighter systems. There are other genres. Go play other games. See what's out there. Not because I want all 5E players to switch to my system of choice. No thanks. I've spent the last decade playing with and running for 5E-only players. I can't get away from them fast enough. I'd just like enough of a fracturing of the fanbase to get enough players out of the 5E bubble to be able to play my games of choice. Yes, you want to solve the "WotC and 5E are too dominant" problem by putting a different company who's putting out a 5E variant on the throne. That doesn't really solve the problem at all. If the problem is "dictators are bad", then replacing one dictator with another won't actually solve the problem. [/QUOTE]
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