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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7805299" data-attributes="member: 6895991">Well I cannot quite argue there, because I only played DL as gold box CRPG never as tabletop and read the books. Sure, you can do other things still after the war of the lance but it is still the top plot in the whole saga, also in the books.In my greyhawk campaign the players are actually agents of Otiluke, but the difference is that the circle of eight is a major force of neutrality and maybe status quo whereas Elminster and Drizzt are major forces of good and change to the better.In a way FRs Elminster and Dirzzt are also "higher up" for a group of PCs to meet, than most of the circle of eight, who are sometimes into quite mundane issues. FR or Greyhawk does in no way require that PCs are involved or meet some of these major forces to have a good campaign in either of those settings.But in FR these two serve as a cavalry sometimes, to jump the fray, whereas in greyhawk Circle of eight are rather a tool to explain why evil did not yet have all out victory.</blockquote>