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<blockquote data-quote="Guang" data-source="post: 8583947" data-attributes="member: 6779420">A great answer. Very useful info too, thank you - I didn't know the lore of gobinoid gods was so similar in so many different editions. I only started paying especial attention to goblinoids as an entire group rather than individual monsters when Keith Baker's Exploring Eberron came out - I absolutely love what he did with the Muut/Akha shared dream of goblinoid places in the Dhakaani Empire and have been trying different things to make the Dar a going concern in my own worldbuilding. And for the record, your article is amazing. You should get people to pay money for it.Which is fascinating - and makes me think &quot;what is the actual definition of goblinoid, independently from which creatures the term includes?&quot; It turns out to be a surprisingly difficult question to answer, without relying solely on magic or the power of a god. They definitely share traits from folklore - but which traits, specifically? Just the fact that we recognize them from folklore and fairy tales? the goblinoid subtype in pf just says that they all speak goblin and they have stealth. I haven't been able to find templates or subtypes from other systems yet. (i.e. This template can be applied to any humanoid or monstrous humanoid - like they do for Fey and other groups/types)And is my dwarf example goblinoid now? After all, dwarves also made regular appearances in the old fairy tales.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guang, post: 8583947, member: 6779420"] A great answer. Very useful info too, thank you - I didn't know the lore of gobinoid gods was so similar in so many different editions. I only started paying especial attention to goblinoids as an entire group rather than individual monsters when Keith Baker's Exploring Eberron came out - I absolutely love what he did with the Muut/Akha shared dream of goblinoid places in the Dhakaani Empire and have been trying different things to make the Dar a going concern in my own worldbuilding. And for the record, your article is amazing. You should get people to pay money for it. Which is fascinating - and makes me think "what is the actual definition of goblinoid, independently from which creatures the term includes?" It turns out to be a surprisingly difficult question to answer, without relying solely on magic or the power of a god. They definitely share traits from folklore - but which traits, specifically? Just the fact that we recognize them from folklore and fairy tales? the goblinoid subtype in pf just says that they all speak goblin and they have stealth. I haven't been able to find templates or subtypes from other systems yet. (i.e. This template can be applied to any humanoid or monstrous humanoid - like they do for Fey and other groups/types) And is my dwarf example goblinoid now? After all, dwarves also made regular appearances in the old fairy tales. [/QUOTE]

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