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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 3476607" data-attributes="member: 7211">Again, as Piratecat pointed out, there are some books which are on the curve and some above and below. Pointing out that they printed books which do not cause power creep does not somehow negate the books they print that do cause it.Tome of Magic and PHB II are weaker than core casters? What about Spell Compendium and Complete Mage?Why is there an onus on me to prove such a thing? When 3rd edition came out the cleric was hailed as the most powerful class. The designers admitted to increasing the power level of the cleric because their data suggested people did not enjoy playing clerics. The ORIGINAL core system is balanced, to a point (in terms of a group of 4-5 PCs fighting monsters). With options for more damage, the ability to fight more encounters per day, more versatility, and better feats and PrCs since 3rd edition came out it seems asinine to suggest there hasn't been a power creep.However, to reiterate, if it lets you have more fun, it isn't a bad thing. But lets not pretend its not happening (just as it happened in 2nd edition).How so?</blockquote>