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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 70362" data-attributes="member: 94">No, no, NO!The fault lies enitrely with the players. There is no rule that says characters will never encounter anything too tough for them. Who plays like that? Where's the verisimilitude? When a group of 1st level characters walks through the wilderness, do the griffons and dragons and giants instinctively avoid them? &quot;Whoa, hold up there, Sam. They're only 1st level, that wouldn't be fair.&quot; &quot;Right you are, Ralph. Better hide until some high-level folks come by-- we wouldn't want these young idiots to rush at us and assume we won't hit back.&quot;Now, as for the golem: First off, as someone else said, Don't push the button! Once, a small mistake paid for with a comrade's life. The second time-- going back in with no spells and only two characters-- sheer folly.But if you absolutely feel like you have to kill that golem-- and your plan seemed to be working-- why not rest, recover spells, heal up, and THEN try? The next day, or the day after? It's not like the golem was going anywhere. A golem as an enemy is the epitome of &quot;Computer-Controlled Monster.&quot; If you can outwit Baldur's Gate, you can outwit a golem. Apply the same techniques.Wulf</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 70362, member: 94"] No, no, NO! The fault lies enitrely with the players. There is no rule that says characters will never encounter anything too tough for them. Who plays like that? Where's the verisimilitude? When a group of 1st level characters walks through the wilderness, do the griffons and dragons and giants instinctively avoid them? "Whoa, hold up there, Sam. They're only 1st level, that wouldn't be fair." "Right you are, Ralph. Better hide until some high-level folks come by-- we wouldn't want these young idiots to rush at us and assume we won't hit back." Now, as for the golem: First off, as someone else said, [i]Don't push the button! [/i] Once, a small mistake paid for with a comrade's life. The second time-- going back in with no spells and only two characters-- sheer folly. But if you absolutely feel like you have to kill that golem-- and your plan seemed to be working-- why not rest, recover spells, heal up, and THEN try? The next day, or the day after? It's not like the golem was going anywhere. A golem as an enemy is the epitome of "Computer-Controlled Monster." If you can outwit Baldur's Gate, you can outwit a golem. Apply the same techniques. Wulf [/QUOTE]

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