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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 71185" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Pointing fingers Zenon? Shame on you! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The DM told us how this creature was acting. It attacked whomever attacked it last. If nobody attacked it last, it attacked the closest creature. It stacked the "bodies" neatly in a corner and went back to its room without following us down the stairs, even though it was faster than my dwarf.</p><p></p><p>So yes, I knew it was a Flesh Golem. It was probably a mistake of the DM to say "a Flesh Golem comes out and attacks" (unless he wanted us to have knowledge about it).</p><p></p><p>I have been trying to get him to say things like "an 8 foot tall creature, somewhat human looking, comes out and attacks", but he's a new DM, so he slips a lot.</p><p></p><p>Basically though, that's mostly irrelevant. Most humanoid creatures would have a tough time getting at the Cleric with her standing on the platform and attacking with a reach weapon. The creature had no weapons, so it seemed a good tactic regardless. One where it could not reach her, but she could reach it if it came close. Yes, an intelligent humanoid creature could have stayed away and thrown objects at her, but as described, this creature was acting in a "programmed manner".</p><p></p><p>So, I did not think it too outside the realm of my 17 Intelligence Illusionist with 7 total in Knowledge Arcana to figure out that it was a Golem and have some basic knowledge of how a Golem works. It appeared that the DM thought we knew about Golems since he said it right away.</p><p></p><p>But evidently, you think that intelligent PCs should have no knowledge of the creatures in their world, even after the DM tells them what it is. YMMV. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 71185, member: 2011"] Pointing fingers Zenon? Shame on you! :) The DM told us how this creature was acting. It attacked whomever attacked it last. If nobody attacked it last, it attacked the closest creature. It stacked the "bodies" neatly in a corner and went back to its room without following us down the stairs, even though it was faster than my dwarf. So yes, I knew it was a Flesh Golem. It was probably a mistake of the DM to say "a Flesh Golem comes out and attacks" (unless he wanted us to have knowledge about it). I have been trying to get him to say things like "an 8 foot tall creature, somewhat human looking, comes out and attacks", but he's a new DM, so he slips a lot. Basically though, that's mostly irrelevant. Most humanoid creatures would have a tough time getting at the Cleric with her standing on the platform and attacking with a reach weapon. The creature had no weapons, so it seemed a good tactic regardless. One where it could not reach her, but she could reach it if it came close. Yes, an intelligent humanoid creature could have stayed away and thrown objects at her, but as described, this creature was acting in a "programmed manner". So, I did not think it too outside the realm of my 17 Intelligence Illusionist with 7 total in Knowledge Arcana to figure out that it was a Golem and have some basic knowledge of how a Golem works. It appeared that the DM thought we knew about Golems since he said it right away. But evidently, you think that intelligent PCs should have no knowledge of the creatures in their world, even after the DM tells them what it is. YMMV. ;) [/QUOTE]
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