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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 573317" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>Maybe I'm wrong here. It's been known to happen before. But the original post strikes me as a transparent attempt to "trap" people into arguing that the actions described (those of a paladin, as some see it) aren't lawful good.</p><p></p><p>Thing is, they very well could be lawful good, and acceptable for a paladin (which, again, seems the real intent of the original post.)</p><p></p><p><em>Lawful</em> has nothing to do with laws, people. It has to do with adherence to a set code of behavior and the belief that a regimented society is preferable to anarchy. The D&D development team would have done us all a service if they'd changed the term from "Lawful" to "Order." Heck, the counter to <em>Chaos Hammer</em> is <em>Order's Wrath</em>.</p><p></p><p>That being said, being a paladin has little to nothing to do with "respecting the laws of the land." The paladin respects that the land <em>has</em> laws, because he believes that the order of a society with strict laws will produce the greatest good. But he does not have to follow every law. He does not have to turn over every prisoner to "local authorities."</p><p></p><p>Ordered means the paladin has a code he follows. He does things the same way in the same situation. He follows his beliefs unwaveringly. If his code demands that he kill every evil creature he comes across, then he does so. If it demands that he whack every villian he comes across with a wet fish, he does <em>that</em> every time. There is no case-by-case, there is no second-guessing. A particular cause has a particular effect, every time.</p><p></p><p>A Chaotic character does what seems appropriate when the situation comes up. He has no set rules, follows no guidelines. One day, setting the prisoners free might seem the "good" thing to do. Another day, killing the prisoners where they stand might seem the "good" thing to do. He is free to choose each day, each instant, what he feels is the good and proper thing to do. And he does.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and to stay on-topic in case I was wrong about the original post: The cleric in question could very much be lawful good. He has an ordered behavior, and the only things he is killing are evil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 573317, member: 707"] Maybe I'm wrong here. It's been known to happen before. But the original post strikes me as a transparent attempt to "trap" people into arguing that the actions described (those of a paladin, as some see it) aren't lawful good. Thing is, they very well could be lawful good, and acceptable for a paladin (which, again, seems the real intent of the original post.) [i]Lawful[/i] has nothing to do with laws, people. It has to do with adherence to a set code of behavior and the belief that a regimented society is preferable to anarchy. The D&D development team would have done us all a service if they'd changed the term from "Lawful" to "Order." Heck, the counter to [i]Chaos Hammer[/i] is [i]Order's Wrath[/i]. That being said, being a paladin has little to nothing to do with "respecting the laws of the land." The paladin respects that the land [i]has[/i] laws, because he believes that the order of a society with strict laws will produce the greatest good. But he does not have to follow every law. He does not have to turn over every prisoner to "local authorities." Ordered means the paladin has a code he follows. He does things the same way in the same situation. He follows his beliefs unwaveringly. If his code demands that he kill every evil creature he comes across, then he does so. If it demands that he whack every villian he comes across with a wet fish, he does [i]that[/i] every time. There is no case-by-case, there is no second-guessing. A particular cause has a particular effect, every time. A Chaotic character does what seems appropriate when the situation comes up. He has no set rules, follows no guidelines. One day, setting the prisoners free might seem the "good" thing to do. Another day, killing the prisoners where they stand might seem the "good" thing to do. He is free to choose each day, each instant, what he feels is the good and proper thing to do. And he does. Oh, and to stay on-topic in case I was wrong about the original post: The cleric in question could very much be lawful good. He has an ordered behavior, and the only things he is killing are evil. [/QUOTE]
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