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<blockquote data-quote="The Shaman" data-source="post: 5133628" data-attributes="member: 26473">And that's exactly what I was talking about, Hobo: I remember a number of the online discussions that preceded OSRIC and the release of first retro-clones, which I took as the beginning of the OSR.I recall seeing discussions about publishing new material for older editions of D&amp;D around 2005 - not just releasing free stuff by .pdf on fansites, but adventures that could legally be distributed and sold in gaming stores - and not just on Dragonsfoot, but here and Big Purple; that's significant to me in that both of the latter sites were very 3e-centric in their D&amp;D discussions at that time, so the conversations stood out.So I don't know where you get the idea that I, or anyone else, was conflating persisting interest in older games with as what has come to be called the OSR.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Shaman, post: 5133628, member: 26473"] And that's exactly what I was talking about, [b]Hobo[/b]: I remember a number of the online discussions that preceded OSRIC and the release of first retro-clones, which I took as the beginning of the OSR. I recall seeing discussions about publishing new material for older editions of [i]D&D[/i] around 2005 - not just releasing free stuff by .pdf on fansites, but adventures that could legally be distributed and sold in gaming stores - and not just on Dragonsfoot, but here and [B][COLOR="Indigo"]Big Purple[/COLOR][/B]; that's significant to me in that both of the latter sites were very 3e-centric in their [i]D&D[/i] discussions at that time, so the conversations stood out. So I don't know where you get the idea that I, or anyone else, was conflating persisting interest in older games with as what has come to be called the OSR. [/QUOTE]

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