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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5135046" data-attributes="member: 80487">From what I have seen, Advanced/Basic/Original players and 3e players overwhelmingly parted ways long ago. I can think of one exception who stuck with 3e until 3.5, then gave C&amp;C a try, then went back to AD&amp;D -- and ended up discovering and adopting OD&amp;D tailored to his taste.No doubt there have been other &quot;late abandoners&quot;, and even some folks who decided their &quot;new edition&quot; would be an old one or retro-clone instead of 4e. However, the online reaction that I saw, at &quot;old school&quot; sites, to the announcement of 4e was pretty much a dismissal of &quot;more of the same&quot;. The significant differences from 3e just meant that -- where there had been some conversion of 3e modules -- the new game apparently offered nothing of practical interest. There was a brief upturn in WotC-bashing, mostly recycling the same old complaints.Nothing of any great import in the &quot;OSR&quot; comes to my mind as having squat to do with that blip on the radar.Some of us &quot;oldies&quot; play 4e on occasion. There may have been a slight increase in people &quot;coming over&quot; from 3e. Then again, it might just be an upward fluctuation in the frequency of those who right away wheel out their proposals to &quot;improve&quot; the old game by making it more like 3e.Quite apart from, and oblivious to, the OSR, there are of course players playing what they like to play. In my current face-to-face group, a couple have never played a WotC edition. Another has a collection of WotC's plastic miniatures, but has played 3e only once and 4e not at all. About all they know is what they see when they go to conventions, and that doesn't look like what they want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5135046, member: 80487"] From what I have seen, Advanced/Basic/Original players and 3e players overwhelmingly parted ways long ago. I can think of one exception who stuck with 3e until 3.5, then gave C&C a try, then went back to AD&D -- and ended up discovering and adopting OD&D tailored to his taste. No doubt there have been other "late abandoners", and even some folks who decided their "new edition" would be an old one or retro-clone instead of 4e. However, the online reaction that I saw, at "old school" sites, to the announcement of 4e was pretty much a dismissal of "more of the same". The significant differences from 3e just meant that -- where there had been some conversion of 3e modules -- the new game apparently offered [i]nothing[/i] of practical interest. There was a brief upturn in WotC-bashing, mostly recycling the same old complaints. Nothing of any great import in the "OSR" comes to my mind as having squat to do with that blip on the radar. Some of us "oldies" play 4e on occasion. There may have been a slight increase in people "coming over" from 3e. Then again, it might just be an upward fluctuation in the frequency of those who right away wheel out their proposals to "improve" the old game by making it more like 3e. [b]Quite apart from[/b], and oblivious to, the OSR, there are of course players playing what they like to play. In my current face-to-face group, a couple have never played a WotC edition. Another has a collection of WotC's plastic miniatures, but has played 3e only once and 4e not at all. About all they know is what they see when they go to conventions, and that doesn't look like what they want. [/QUOTE]

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