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<blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 5135060" data-attributes="member: 5">I think that if WotC were giving certain OSR D&amp;Ders the D&amp;D they wished to play as a contemporary game and supporting it (and doing it well) then the OSR would not exist as we know it now, except maybe as the OSRPGA. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />If the OSR was only about bloggers and authors and publishers your request would make sense.&nbsp; My beverage analogy is an apt one.If that last line was what you wrote in the first place, we would not be haivg this divergent discussion.&nbsp; What you said was that 4E has nothing to do with why the OSR exists.&nbsp; &quot;The OSR exists because people were ALREADY alienated from WotC's version of D&amp;D ca. 2005. Really, no really, it has nothing to do with 4e.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mark, post: 5135060, member: 5"] I think that if WotC were giving certain OSR D&Ders the D&D they wished to play as a contemporary game and supporting it (and doing it well) then the OSR would not exist as we know it now, except maybe as the OSRPGA. :D If the OSR was only about bloggers and authors and publishers your request would make sense. My beverage analogy is an apt one. If that last line was what you wrote in the first place, we would not be haivg this divergent discussion. What you said was that 4E has nothing to do with why the OSR exists. "The OSR exists because people were ALREADY alienated from WotC's version of D&D ca. 2005. Really, no really, it has nothing to do with 4e." [/QUOTE]

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