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<blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 5135225" data-attributes="member: 20239">What you're saying is that the OSR basically gained strength through negativity. I've never seen that. In fact, most of the OSR blogs and messageboards had a few posts/threads about 4e right after it first came out and everybody was talking about it and then dropped the subject to focus on the games that OSR people actually care about.The OSR is based on people who think the old games are still awesome and who still have fun playing and writing about them. Since WotC isn't a publisher for those games, they really haven't been a player in the OSR. The one thing that WotC have done that really affected the OSR was releasing the OGL/SRD, which made the retroclones possible. Other than that, I don't think the OSR is really that cognizant of what WotC is doing.The fact that Mike Mearls and some of the other 4e designers have been rediscovering OD&amp;D in the past few years even argues that it's the OSR influencing WotC, rather than the other way around. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ourph, post: 5135225, member: 20239"] [U] What you're saying is that the OSR basically gained strength through negativity. I've never seen that. In fact, most of the OSR blogs and messageboards had a few posts/threads about 4e right after it first came out and everybody was talking about it and then dropped the subject to focus on the games that OSR people actually care about. The OSR is based on people who think the old games are still awesome and who still have fun playing and writing about them. Since WotC isn't a publisher for those games, they really haven't been a player in the OSR. The one thing that WotC have done that really affected the OSR was releasing the OGL/SRD, which made the retroclones possible. Other than that, I don't think the OSR is really that cognizant of what WotC is doing. The fact that Mike Mearls and some of the other 4e designers have been rediscovering OD&D in the past few years even argues that it's the OSR influencing WotC, rather than the other way around. :D[/u] [/QUOTE]

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