Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What is OSR about?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 5136133" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>Well, if you're addressing my comments, I never used the term nostalgia as a "dirty word", and I believe part of what's just been called the "500 blogger" movement is in part a reflection of that nostalgia. I think there's a knee-jerk defensive reaction to use of that word. </p><p></p><p>Too many fans of these entertainments want to write polemics explaining in objective terms why their version is superior. If you are the type that tries to say "everything was better" in the old days, including things like the art and desktop publishing of the games, I think the person might not be looking at the core. There is that sort of element I see, and it's okay to critique it a bit, and I think it's important to understand part of the primal psychology of your personal "golden age".</p><p></p><p>But saying something is based in part on nostalgia is certainly not the same as using terms like 3tard/4on--it would be the equivalent of coming up with a bad name.</p><p></p><p>And that doesn't mean the new fans get the pass...there's always a tendency to think new is better, and that everybody else is an old "stuck in the past" kind of person. It's important to listen to the wisdom of the elders at times, and understand the difference between bitterness and real, honest, criticism.</p><p></p><p>Basically, I think the root of all edition wars right now, from old to new fans, is some level of insecurity and a need to see the other version of D&D as "the enemy". If we could eliminate that, I think the general gaming culture would be a lot better. Instead of having separate forums where people throw brickbats at the other guy, it would be nice to be able to group together and discuss our common bonds, and seriously be able to critique styles of play without making personal attacks and without interpreting criticism as personal attacks. </p><p></p><p>But I have a sad feeling that won't happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnRTroy, post: 5136133, member: 2732"] Well, if you're addressing my comments, I never used the term nostalgia as a "dirty word", and I believe part of what's just been called the "500 blogger" movement is in part a reflection of that nostalgia. I think there's a knee-jerk defensive reaction to use of that word. Too many fans of these entertainments want to write polemics explaining in objective terms why their version is superior. If you are the type that tries to say "everything was better" in the old days, including things like the art and desktop publishing of the games, I think the person might not be looking at the core. There is that sort of element I see, and it's okay to critique it a bit, and I think it's important to understand part of the primal psychology of your personal "golden age". But saying something is based in part on nostalgia is certainly not the same as using terms like 3tard/4on--it would be the equivalent of coming up with a bad name. And that doesn't mean the new fans get the pass...there's always a tendency to think new is better, and that everybody else is an old "stuck in the past" kind of person. It's important to listen to the wisdom of the elders at times, and understand the difference between bitterness and real, honest, criticism. Basically, I think the root of all edition wars right now, from old to new fans, is some level of insecurity and a need to see the other version of D&D as "the enemy". If we could eliminate that, I think the general gaming culture would be a lot better. Instead of having separate forums where people throw brickbats at the other guy, it would be nice to be able to group together and discuss our common bonds, and seriously be able to critique styles of play without making personal attacks and without interpreting criticism as personal attacks. But I have a sad feeling that won't happen. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What is OSR about?
Top