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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6521776" data-attributes="member: 6787650">I'm not convinced that 5E really qualifies as &quot;Advanced&quot; at all. I'm enjoying it (after a looong hiatus, 15+ years since I drifted away from AD&amp;D2 around the S&amp;P era) but it's pretty simplistic in a lot of ways, from the lack of spell research rules to the game-ishness of the encounter design rules to the dreary sameness of all the clerics[1]. Maybe they took the &quot;Advanced&quot; Moniker off it for a reason. (Or maybe 3E still had the richness of AD&amp;D and 5E only recently lost it? I don't have the historical context to know for sure here.)I'm enjoying 5E and I may stick with it, but I want more Advanced stuff! I loved Fifth Edition Foes and I'm really looking forward to the Book of Lost Spells. And I want Spelljammer.[1] Hopefully, anyone who is familiar with the Tome of Magic and Legends and Lore knows what I'm talking about here. In AD&amp;D, any given priest usually knew no better than half of the total available spells, and some spells (e.g. Solipcism, an illusion that works only on yourself) were so obscure that only relatively esoteric priesthoods had access to them. In 5E, cleric spells are cleric spells and that's pretty much it. All you get from your particular priesthood is additional access to non-cleric spells. It works but it's simple, not Advanced.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6521776, member: 6787650"] I'm not convinced that 5E really qualifies as "Advanced" at all. I'm enjoying it (after a looong hiatus, 15+ years since I drifted away from AD&D2 around the S&P era) but it's pretty simplistic in a lot of ways, from the lack of spell research rules to the game-ishness of the encounter design rules to the dreary sameness of all the clerics[1]. Maybe they took the "Advanced" Moniker off it for a reason. (Or maybe 3E still had the richness of AD&D and 5E only recently lost it? I don't have the historical context to know for sure here.) I'm enjoying 5E and I may stick with it, but I want more Advanced stuff! I loved Fifth Edition Foes and I'm really looking forward to the Book of Lost Spells. And I want Spelljammer. [1] Hopefully, anyone who is familiar with the Tome of Magic and Legends and Lore knows what I'm talking about here. In AD&D, any given priest usually knew no better than half of the total available spells, and some spells (e.g. Solipcism, an illusion that works only on yourself) were so obscure that only relatively esoteric priesthoods had access to them. In 5E, cleric spells are cleric spells and that's pretty much it. All you get from your particular priesthood is additional access to [I]non-cleric[/I] spells. It works but it's simple, not Advanced. [/QUOTE]

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