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<blockquote data-quote="nevin" data-source="post: 9074644" data-attributes="member: 7024481">if the actions of the players don't change anything then that's the definition of no agency.&nbsp; Not saying every action should make a measureable change in the game world but it should make a measurable change in the pond they play in.&nbsp; &nbsp;I will say I've never had a table with players that didn't like each other that didn't blow up at some point.&nbsp; Usually it starts with a table of people that get along great then someone brings a friend or a few or a couple bring friends and then the arguments or in game player disfunction starts.&nbsp; It's not a common thing but I've seen it and It makes me very uncomfortable running a game with players that don't want to be in the same room with each other.&nbsp; That all by itself can blow up the game even if everyone is staying in thier own lanes.&nbsp;&nbsp; Some people just cant sit in a room with people they don't like and enjoy themselves.&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it possible that is your issue and no one wants to admit they are the bad guys that can't play nice with people they don't like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nevin, post: 9074644, member: 7024481"] if the actions of the players don't change anything then that's the definition of no agency. Not saying every action should make a measureable change in the game world but it should make a measurable change in the pond they play in. I will say I've never had a table with players that didn't like each other that didn't blow up at some point. Usually it starts with a table of people that get along great then someone brings a friend or a few or a couple bring friends and then the arguments or in game player disfunction starts. It's not a common thing but I've seen it and It makes me very uncomfortable running a game with players that don't want to be in the same room with each other. That all by itself can blow up the game even if everyone is staying in thier own lanes. Some people just cant sit in a room with people they don't like and enjoy themselves. Is it possible that is your issue and no one wants to admit they are the bad guys that can't play nice with people they don't like. [/QUOTE]

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