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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 9082413" data-attributes="member: 7020832">I feel we are posting at cross-purposes, since I don’t understand how what I’m saying is relevant to your point and vice-versa.I was responding to what I perceived was your point that adding more player authorial to D&D would break the game.  My response is that I don’t think so.One of the things I like about 5e is that it is relatively simple, so it is easy to add and modify elements.  I don’t think anyone posting on this thread is playing unmodified D&D now.If giving players more authorial control is a good thing, and I believe it is, there are a ton of ways to do it, some of which can be borrowed from other games that already do it.However, I disagree with your last point, that to play D&D the DM HAS to have a large amount of information that is hidden from the players that the players will likely derail if they get more authorial input.Even today, many DMs play D&D using a largely improvisational style.It’s one of those tests where everyone grades themselves because the teacher has a hangover.In my opinion, you added a crucial caveat to the Tulsa Doom example: “as long as it doesn’t conflict with the DM’s plans”.I think taking an extremely broad definition of “player’s advantage”, to the point where “increases the player’s fun at the table” is considered an advantage waters down the proposed definition.I mean, if “increases a player’s fun at the table” is an advantage, what is left?  A player can make a change as long as it is insignificant and doesn’t impact their fun at the table?That does militate in favour of my proposed definition: a player is “altering the game’s reality” when they exercise authorial power to establish a prior event or detail that meaningfully conflicts with something the DM has decided, whether it has been established or the table or not.</blockquote>

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