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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9083749" data-attributes="member: 6684958">I just understand things differently then the Gaming Collective.It's true I don't know the problem players well....and don't really ever plan too.&nbsp; We just don't get along.I'm not really in favor of changing everything to fit the players whims.&nbsp; Or making them feel like they have &quot;agency&quot;.Yea, this is too much word salad for me.&nbsp; I want the players to not complain and be good players.&nbsp; Simple.I'm sure they did NOT sign up for it.&nbsp; The players in question are the worst casual player types.&nbsp; They want to play the game where they can say &quot;oh, um, um, we go back to the um, guy, um, the one with the hat, um, over in that, um place and buy some of his potions of healing.&quot;&nbsp; And they wnt a fan/buddy DM that will just say &quot;ok doki, you go there and buy some potions.&quot;&nbsp; They don't fit with my style of &quot;if you can't tell me where your character wants to go....they can't go there&quot;.Thanks for this detailed post.I like this one.&nbsp; I would be fine with this sort of &quot;player agency&quot;.But that is SO easy.&nbsp; There should be a thread.....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9083749, member: 6684958"] I just understand things differently then the Gaming Collective. It's true I don't know the problem players well....and don't really ever plan too. We just don't get along. I'm not really in favor of changing everything to fit the players whims. Or making them feel like they have "agency". Yea, this is too much word salad for me. I want the players to not complain and be good players. Simple. I'm sure they did NOT sign up for it. The players in question are the worst casual player types. They want to play the game where they can say "oh, um, um, we go back to the um, guy, um, the one with the hat, um, over in that, um place and buy some of his potions of healing." And they wnt a fan/buddy DM that will just say "ok doki, you go there and buy some potions." They don't fit with my style of "if you can't tell me where your character wants to go....they can't go there". Thanks for this detailed post. I like this one. I would be fine with this sort of "player agency". But that is SO easy. There should be a thread..... [/QUOTE]

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